Even more so if it takes place at your PC at home with a system that may have cost 1.700,- in a generous case and can only deliver a corresponding performance. The CTDs occur sporadically, and the degree to which they occur depends on the PC configuration and any third-party add-ons that are installed. Quite Amuse! The FAA didn't say there had been any in-flight failures of the switches. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. stream Why dont I say it deserves the maximum rating? But those who know me know that I generally dont do this, as no further improvement is possible beyond a superlative. PMDG 737 When I browse various forums and seeinexperienced simmers asking questions on the level of what button do I need to press to take off, I do have to say that a certain level of expertise is required. But the EGPWS, for instance, definitely deserves a mention. I was landing at a high elevation airport (10,900 feet) and the cabin altitude warning came on. We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. To what degree the data conversion performed by Navigraph is responsible for this cannot be determined. PMDG has currently released the third hotfix for this issue, but some users continue to experience problems. Holger: Can you give an example of a particularly well-implemented complex workflow that is possible with the PMDG aircraft if you exploit it to its full potential? Its great that this is possible today. We had already presented it on simFlight.de, but we would rather mention it again in case someone hasnt seen it yet. Even in critical situations I can make all necessary inputs using my mouse hand without having to let go of the yoke, for instance to open a panel (I have a Saitek yoke/throttle unit and rudder pedals). Boeing had said earlier that the reported issues with the switches didn't pose a safety concern. An impressive experience! The aerodynamic purpose of this is not quite clear to me, but it is definitely beautiful to watch. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Boeing 737-800 and -900 simply look incredibly good, too! My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. The only weakness I have found in this regard is the way the engine loses thrust when the fuel lever is closed. Once you have internalized the concept, you can conveniently operate the NGX to its full extent without any major investments in home cockpit hardware. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. The following NON-NORMAL procedures from the Boeing When in AUTO MODE, or ALTERNATE (ALTN is a second automatic function, same as the AUTO mode) there is no way to reach the cabin altitude warning pressure. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. Tim HeptinstallAirports I have been to: Doncaster Robin Hood Airport EGCN, East Midlands (EGNX), Manchester (EGCC), Tenerife South/Reina Sofia Airport (GCTS), Fuerteventura Airport (GCFV), New York John F Kennedy International Airport (KJFK)Aircraft I have travelled on: 737-800 (Thomson), 737-800WL (Thomson, Ryanair), 757-200 (Thomson, Thomas Cook), 757-200WL (Thomson, Thomas Cook, American Airlines), De Havilland Dragon Rapide (Classic Wings G-AIYR). What this means in practice is evident to the customer the first time they load the 737. OMG this makes no sense, top three switches you could literally be talking about any number of switches lol, Also had this issue, good to have you guys around to help us learn this complex aircraft. If not, we will of course need to divert to the takeoff alternate. is there a way to increase the max cabin altitude setting that is allowed before the alarm is triggered. Oski: Stefan has already mostly answered this question. This page was generated at 03:28. Oski: My current system consists of an i7-960 @3.2 GHz, 6GB triple channel memory and two GTX285 graphics cards with 3 displays in total. And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, is there a way to turn off this warning/alarm? PMDG 737 Cabin Altitude warning - Aircraft - Microsoft No attacking of other commenters (including insulting, threatening, trolling, baiting, flaming), 2. My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. I say this because if the 2D FMC is on a secondary screen, you cannot use keyboard entry you can neither use the tab key nor activate the input line in the scratch pad. I was a little surprised that the 737 NGX now has one after all. Wonderful! The customer has the choice. You need to set the outflow valve to auto. Holger, on the other hand, has already been unlucky several times. Of course, visual treats like these have their price. Oski: Objection, your honour! Whereas only a few months ago there was talk in forums and magazines about of a crisis of flight simulation, new developments are now coming thick and fast in the shape of high-quality releases. It is reassuring, though, that the developers are hard at work on a solution, and we are sure that PMDG will soon be able to offer such a solution. Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations. have a look here: http://virtualfsx.wordpress.com/. Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. WebPMDG Failure Name in FMC: PRESSURIZATION -> PRESSURE HULL INTEGRITY Note 1: Trigger this failure above 14,000 feet Note 2: The Cabin Altitude warning horn is your Have fun! Oski: I hope it wasnt me who made that claim. All of these models will only be available for FSX; an FS2004 version is not planned after all, such a product already exists in the shape of version 1. It repeatedly happened to me that the flight path displayed on the ND contained inconsistencies. In the system requirements, PMDG even writes something about i5 processors .In my view, that should be considered a warning. On final approach, I was only able to reduce to Vref right before the threshold. Finally, Holger Kistermann. Forums Index - All forums; Portal page; MSFS 2020; FSX - FS2004 and Earlier; P3D; X-Plane; Real World Aviation; Other Sims; PC Hardware PMDG 737 Cabin Altitude warning. To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. After all not all use VC or single monitor. Message me if you would like to share stories/progress. iFly released their Boeing 737 NG fleet only a few weeks ago, and we reviewed it here. Join the flight experience and to troubleshoot for CTDs OOM Crash Free operation of FSX a.s.o. check out the. This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. Giuseppe Nelva We start a release, the DHC-1 Chipmunk, which was launched by Aeroplane Heaven. Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. Quite simple: The better is always the enemy of the good. Stefan: No, on the contrary: To start the engines, youhaveto switch to the VC to open the fuel valves. Holger: Nick Collett from Angle of Attack has published a walkaround through the virtual cockpit on Vimeo that shows not only design-specific details but also introduces some of the systems. Today, he consults for and tests various Flight Simulator projects. Hit trip reset and switch iso valve to auto. They are normally turned off for take-off (because they use bleed air which in turn Numerous user configurable options from throughout the global 737 operator fleet. Who knows, maybe an update will address this. In cases such as these, this also applies to vertical navigation, where a target speed sometimes does not behave the way it should. Before we get down to the meat of the review, we briefly want to characterize the PMDG Boeing 737 NGX in the wider context of the current add-on market. Holger: Oski, you fly with a multi-monitor setup, right? These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. Each configuration can be tuned further to ones hearts content. They don't add air to the cabin.Kevin Hall. Though iFly has won the race with PMDG to be the first to release, many enthusiasts see PMDGs product as being far out in front after all, PMDGs developers have already delivered impressive proof of their skill in the shape of other complex airliner simulations. The assessment of the flight envelope as a whole, however, delivers a very good result in my opinion. Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. No discussion about problems you have with an add-on using the outdated cracked version of MSFS (1.19.9.0), 7. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. <>/Font<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/Annots[ 23 0 R] /MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> But the thing that really amused me slightly was RSRs explanation for why the throttle quadrant was left out: He said it was due to lack of time. There, I dont have these problems. I hope PMDG for those who use multiple set up monitors and for more realistic the situation add the First Officer 2D Panel as well. You have duel bleed trip off and ZERO duct pressure therefore not pressurizing. Holger: Sound is an aspect that should not be neglected after all, it accompanies us from the first click on the panel to the completion of the flight though we are usually unconscious of it. Special mention should be given to the lighting of the exterior model: The position lights that reflect of the ground just look great! It has nothing to do with the cruise alt setting or the land alt setting. <> Instead of raising the pitch to 15 and accelerating with a climb rate of at least 1000 fpm, it tiptoes away with 56 ANU and 500600 fpm climb rate. Whether this particular behaviour is seen specifically on the NG is something I dont know. WebHow to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) - YouTube 0:00 / 3:06 How to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) FSimSpotter 5 subscribers 2.7K What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? Should the autopilot control be realistic or simplified? You are left with only two options: Either you move the FMC back to the main screen, or you use the mouse in the old-fashioned way and click around on the input pad until your fingers are sore. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! At this point I do not want to enter into the tiresome discussion about different V-speeds, for instance between TOPCAT and FMC. Any modern flight guidance system can handle it though only of course if the initial situation is correct. The one question that remains is about the reviewers choice. Holger: Oski, why do you recommend that even experienced Boeing 737 NG pilots should use the documentation (at the very least parts of it) to familiarize themselves with this add-on? The deeper you are prepared to involve yourself with this simulation, the more demanding it becomes to fly the beast realistically. PMDGs product philosophy aims not only to deliver a realistic airliner implementation but also to offer corresponding accessories. Stefan: Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. Exterior values: Model, performance, and sound, First impressions count, as they say. Representing years of work to to leverage the very best that Microsoft Flight Simulator can offer, the PMDG 737-900 is the fourth installment in PMDGs simulation of the magnificent Boeing 737NG series. What is clear, though, is that even the NGX is not immune to such errors. I suppose it is simply impossible to program a perfectly flawless FMC. But it is also the add-on that has had to contend with the highest level of expectations. This is an extreme feat, and to us lay people, it is hard to grasp that it is even possible to execute such a procedure many times a second without a hitch. In such conditions, a flow experience will never come about. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Doesnt seem that hard. But that usually takes a bit of effort, and many simmers still shy away from that. It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. Made me wish I had already migrated to FSX. You may have to register before you can post: click the register For PMDG, this is already the second time they have created a Boeing 737 NG: In 2003, they released the first version, which was implemented for FS2002 and FS2004. Highly sophisticated logical simulation of onboard information systems and aircraft management. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! I fly using TrackIR, and I dont need the 2D panel at all. Im guessing its the alarm that you arent in landing configuration, but I have set the flaps for landing, gear is down, speedbrake is armed, what else is required for the alarm to stop? I stoppped the first flight and later did another that went the same way. Youre completely right. I'm not up to speed on the pneumatic system as I'm not a 737 pilot IRL, but I suspect this is because you have the isolation valve set to open instead of auto. Yes, MLD Scenery develops payware products for sale at SIMMARKET https://secure.simmarket.com/mld-sc, when is this gonna be launched, it is gonna cost money? This is because, strangely enough, the throttle quadrant does not have its own 2D panel. Should steel brakes or carbon brakes be simulated? Since 1997, we have asked users to sign their real name, first and last, to all posts in the PMDG forum. Theyre wonderful, dont you think? Then set the landing atltude at the destination and the cruise altitude. I hope no one is going to claim that they use the VC to carry out the complete initialization of the FMC, for instance. Oski: I dont even have to go that far. In general I do have to say that the FMC runs quite stably and without errors. I dont know. PMDG Simulations Official youTube content to aide new PMDG 737 pilots in getting the most from their purchase. And during the subsequent autobrake 1 deceleration I had to intervene manually to leave the runway in a reasonably sensible fashion. And of course this entails that you need to obtain the necessary documents and work them through. Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul. Having the isolation valve in open instead of auto certainly wouldn't do it; neither would climbing 1,000ft above your set cruise altitude. Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. After starting engines set the top three switches to auto. Stefan: To me, personally, the interaction concept of a panel is one of the topmost quality aspects of an aircraft add on. And this is a good thing after all, there are already more than enough other freeware and payware options for novices .This is not a game, this is a simulation of a working environment. Here's an adaptation of a two pilot job for the sim: 1. My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! The FAA said in the order Thursday that if both switches failed, the warning system would not activate if the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 feet at which point oxygen levels on board could become dangerously low and cause flight crews to lose consciousness, it said. Also in the case are eight GB of memory and an Nvidia GeForce 570. You can also tell it would spread a Fire fast in any crash if ON. After all, every animated object has to be calculated dozens of times per second light incidence, reflections, shadows. If there is something to find fault with in comparison with a real autopilot it would be that turns are sometimes initiated a bit harshly in normal LNAV cruise. It's easy! PMDG recommends the use of a 64-bit operating system. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. But lets get back to the core topic of complexity for a moment: Do I have to be an expert to fly the 737 NGX within the boundaries of the Normal Procedures? After all, an uh-oh is something no one wants to experience. But before we can award the reviewers choice to this add-on, PMDG needs to fix the CTDs for good and then we will follow through. Cabin Altitude Warning Horn - PMDG 737NGX - The Is it even possible that this PMDG software can simulate a Boeing 737 realistically? There is an Alt horn shut-off button its on one of the pressurization panels, if you press that one you will get rid of the alarm sound for the rest of the flight. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. The US aviation watchdog has instructed airlines to inspect a pair of pressure switches found on all Boeing 737 airplanes over concerns that their failure could cause onboard oxygen levels to fall dangerously low. Originally posted by Extra300driver View Post. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. At least in normal conditions.The controllers are programmed and designed to never exceed maximum differential pressure between cabin and external air, this thing takes its part in the pressurization profile that controllers make when they know the desired crz altitude and landing altitude.Wrong data are only uncomfortable for passengers and crew.Different is for the manual mode where the pilot manually moves the valve.In this case there is only the overpressure protection wich will open the safety valves when maximum differential pressure is reached.There is no protection in manual if the airplane is de-pressurizing (except for the warning). No I think thats different. The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. I, too, was affected by this on several online test flights. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? !v2c6a=`JK\"@ O)g]BjesUb*P8z:^PHoFs\m)?)ne'k&! I went to my doors page on the fmc and found that cargo hatch was left open and was unable to close it in the air. That horn is the same as the takeoff config warning. Accurate resolution cockpit displays But of course it is true that you should equip yourself with enough hardware that the mouse has to be used as little as possible no matter whether you use the VC or the 2D panels. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. Driveable pushback tug. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. However, a few isolated but relevant problems will definitely still have to be fixed. Here, the developers blundered! In the PMDG, the whole panel is somehow less wide, everything in the VC seems more confined. This is one of the few rigid rules that we enforce regularly. For example, at low speeds it has the same difficulties in holding altitude precisely when rolling into or out of a turn as some of its big colleagues. But I think if you press trip reset on the air con panel it should extinguish Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. A full featured tutorial will guide you through proper operation of the 737 from power up to power down. Please be courteous, English is not my primary language. We have already reviewed the product from iFly. You never have the feeling that something might not be right. What is also great is that PMDG attaches equal importance to the visual aspect of the flight experience. OP is talking about a warning horn that sounds continuously. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Posts that are unsigned will be quietly removed without comment by the moderators, so to make your life easy- we recommend enabling your forum signature so that you never need to remember. Reddit's Official home for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Has PMDG thought of pilots like you? On one of my test flights from Munich to Palma de Mallorca I had made an error in the fuel calculation and still had quite a lot of fuel in the tanks during the approach. Instead, it is an add-on for intermediate or even (very) experienced desk pilots. endobj Also set the altitude of the airport your landing at. The Boeing 737 NGX is certainly not an airplane that can be recommended in good faith to an absolute novice. Holger: In spite of everything, we find ourselves in a two-dimensional world: We sit at a computer screen and try to operate a simulated three-dimensional world using a mouse. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. You are the connoisseur among us, with an eye for correct design. In 2003, by the way, he reviewed PMDGs Boeing 737 NG for FS2002 and FS2004, and he later went on to review the various Boeing 737 NG from Ariane, too. What is your take on the sound, Stefan? Thats correct. Why Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations I could really feel the large mass pushing: The aircraft was quite unwilling to lose airspeed and altitude. There is no external tool for this, everything can be configured directly from the Flight Simulator session. Fully customized system simulation for all major and minor aircraft systems and components. In the case of the PMDG this applies to the convincing flight dynamics. FlightSim.Com Upload New File; Discussion. I think my Nvidea GeForce 9800 GT would give it a run for its money. If I consider how an A320 with FBW behaves which, after all, supports you extremely well during this transition the NGX seems to me to be a bit too harmless in this respect. I dont know. The engines dont look entirely new from the factory, and the numerous official PMDG repaints are also a joy to behold. Includes the the 737-900ER in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. Stefan: Youre completely right.

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