Sorry, dropped the phone. That's one of the few crimes I'm against. His brain is so fried that I feel like that could possibly be his every day, waking state. There's no firsthand anything as far as I know. John "Catfish": 00:04:27 Are you recording this? I tracked him down in the Philippines, and when I interviewed him, I said, "You know you're the last person to see her alive?" You can hear this two, officer. It’s time to hear from him: Siluriformes. I'm a little curious what you're saying. However I've now found another page that he opened up for some CBD oil. John "Catfish": 00:09:47 If I go against the FBI and hand you information that they're sitting on, likely because they know what they're doing and know how to do the job, I could be in a little bit of trouble. Payne Lindsey: 00:57:28 Was she mad about the rent? John "Catfish": 00:25:22 I don't need to. But that-. I wanted to go to the police about it. I'm not afraid of the fucking government, like cops and shit like that. John "Catfish": 00:08:09 Listen to me. John "Catfish": 00:50:06 So look, sir, I need to go now. Payne Lindsey: 00:52:42 Wouldn't you want to know what people are saying? Once a person's accused of some crimes like that, people don't ever remember if they were acquitted, or maybe they had a good attorney, or nothing because I never considered anyone to ever be innocent of it once until this down here, pretty much. People that were friends, I thought. Me. Kristal was at your house around your birthday, correct? However, after a month, red flags were up for one reason: A 4-year old little girl named Kasha. She didn't know that they did that. Unknown man: 00:04:27 Ask him if he's recording. John "Catfish": 00:27:53 What it means is, I'm guessing like this. You know what, folks? As ill humored of a joke it would be. Payne Lindsey: 00:21:54 You said that you didn't know her very well, but she hung out with you and drank wine and smoked weed on your birthday? Payne Lindsey: 00:04:26 Hey man. You're absolutely lying about that. But that's the caring person. But one thing's for sure is that your Hoover administration likely has prudence over that little situation there as far as who you're doing it for. Oh, a book. Catfish also said that he didn't know her that well. If you believe me to be innocent, then please do so. John "Catfish": 00:07:35 Right. And didn't Brian confess to Catfish that he killed her? John "Catfish": 00:27:03 Well, I would kind of concur. You're trying to frame me up for money. John "Catfish": 00:55:55 I really don't feel it was my business to talk to him. But I care about my life as well. You understand when I was going through this data, I knew who was coming to see me the next morning, okay? He won't last any longer on the street. So let's close it up proper. And these are gonna be reliable and credible witnesses? Chris Halsne: 00:00:02 guy is If I get an interview, on the record, with somebody who's been accused of some horrific crimes, I've often found that they want to talk. Or did she seem like she was gonna meet up with Brian or something? It's like this, but I hella care. Thanks! I don't know every way a person can leave the earth, they could die or whatever. And he laughed and he said, "Yeah, I guess I was." I'll find new employment. John "Catfish": 00:46:18 That's what I'm talking about, sir. Who's that in the background? Payne Lindsey: 00:15:24 What are you talking about, cutting a check? Let's prove your innocence right now. Payne Lindsey: 00:22:07 That's what the police report says. There is no justifiable reason, whether she was talking to cops or whether she was stealing from people or whether she was doing anything at all. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:44 But did Ara make it up, too? Payne Lindsey: 00:37:06 Do you believe Brian? Crestone BF: 00:19:58 I blocked him, 'cause he kept trying to get a hold of me and stuff and he was just trying to send me all this peace and love shit. John "Catfish": 00:26:51 Katherine Weisenberg. Let me send you an email in the next five minutes. I realize that didn't sound that intellectelligent, just 'cause you know exactly why. I wake up to people accusing me of shit like this. Dready Brian? They have suspicions and they have some evidence. Well, it's a pretty big harm to my life that's happening and I could use a whole lot of come up money right now. 1903) Fish.Fish's father was American, of English ancestry, and his mother was Scots-Irish American. Payne Lindsey: 00:51:22 Where should we check now? If you have it, I promise you I will put it out there. Then I'm the ... Payne Lindsey: 00:34:01 No, I get it, yeah. Do you think that if I did something harmful to her, I would be the one saying that? Honestly, I met her at a party, invited her over. Payne Lindsey: 00:39:58 What do you think Brian did to her? However, I'm not able to get involved in that, I'm guessing, because that's called a federal investigation I would be interfering in. I'd like to clear up anything that was said. It's not I that determines the falsity of it, but detectives, prosecutors. What are they waiting on? I wondered the same.. why didnt his "counsel " make him hang the phone up? I'm not gonna say anything bad about her, but her and I never hooked up, nothing. I can't ask you to drop this one, because I'm involved in it. I do have iTunes. Hey Dad, I'm on the phone with the guy from the podcast. And I'm not shaking you down here, I'm suggesting you don't pay that much. It was like the T-ball or the kindergarten of exploring wifi networks. I'm being harassed. Thank you, sir ... change her name to to have a cool hippie name? Payne Lindsey: 00:19:52 Since Kristal's been missing, he says that Catfish has tried several times to reach out to him on Facebook. I want you to hear me. I can't even think of one at the moment, honestly. It's the last crime I would ever commit, pretty much. John "Catfish": 00:09:01 You're in this for money. John "Catfish": 00:13:11 Brother, I couldn't go to town for three years because everyone looking at me going, "That's the guy that I heard someone heard someone heard did it." This is not your interview of me, respectfully. I'm joking. However, I feel hes doing a piss poor job at that. They said that you could give me the information. Payne Lindsey: 00:14:14 What happened that night? Last seen, we don't know what month she went missing. I was trying to talk to her, but she felt like she was too late, that she didn't do a rape kit or anything. Special thanks to the team at Cadence13. So yeah, I'll take it. Why would he lie about something like that where he did the bait on Facebook Messenger thing and he says, "All right, fine, fuck it, because I ..." And he said that. I want you to tell me what you know or what you don't know or how you feel about all this. John "Catfish": 00:26:21 So problem is, I lost all my computers when I lost my home over this kind of crap. I don't want to sound like a angry person like I am, but I am telling you, I'm getting 50 messages a day or more of people saying that this guy is fucking slandering me on this podcast thing. Payne Lindsey: 00:46:17 Wasn't she last seen at your house, though? But my main focus was on something different: Kristal's accusation that she was drugged and raped at his house on June 28, 2016. He's telling them new details that they didn't know. What was the question? She was a friend of ours. Or, whether they're saying something that's new. I can just read it. All I've heard is everyone calling me telling me that, "This guy's accused you of this and that," and stuff. And the truth is, I could use some fucking scratch right now. Do you realize how weird that would have looked? I'll tell you what, I'll message you back. I barely knew her. But I sure as anything guarantee you that is the very first time I have said that to anyone. John "Catfish": 00:04:36 That's smart of you. lmfao hes so innocent he'll eat during the interview (he's interviewing Payne not the other way around !! I mean, I believe you. John "Catfish": 00:15:02 I wasn't even there then. Why are you doing this? But I know there's things called 10,000 Faces of Death and I don't watch them TV shows either. They can see small things that trip killers up. We smoked some pot, drank some wine, things like that and whatnot, and then maybe one or two other times that I hang out with her. John "Catfish": 00:33:59 Yeah, that I'm definitely not gonna be going to court and saying. And I'm not disrespecting her at all. John "Catfish": 00:22:07 There is no police report, you lying mother ... You are now ... What is this called? I mean, hell, maybe I'd let him fuck me for enough Quaaludes. John "Catfish": 00:35:45 For ruining my likeness and my name, which is internationally copy written, yes. Kind of like... John "Catfish": 00:56:11 I remember the evening quite well. Payne Lindsey: 00:09:59 I know about the Facebook message. I just got home from a four-hour bike ride, all right? I had known that he had raped her. I'm trying to get out the door in a fucking emergency hurry 'cause I can see this daylight fading from me, and the truth is I'm just getting dressed and brushing my teeth and getting ready to go. Is this John? John "Catfish": 00:09:28 I know them and they know me and they know I didn't do anything. Who on earth is Big Cat? John "Catfish": 00:38:35 I'm not saying it wouldn't be smart, necessarily, though. That's the thing, is I barely knew her. I mean, seriously, I have nothing to do with harming her in any way whatsoever, and you need to understand that if we are ever going to talk politely. 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